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I have a need to make collapsible panniers.. are there directions anywhere on how to do this? I'm creating costuming that needs to be able to travel in regular baggage for air travel.
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Re: hinged/foldable pannier pattern?
Tue, January 6, 2009 - 8:18 AMthe JP Ryan panniers collapse quite nicely! In fact, all panniers do, unless they've got reed extending entirely around the body (instead of just on the hips).
Or were you thinking of the big court hoops that extend to the floor? -
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Re: hinged/foldable pannier pattern?
Tue, January 6, 2009 - 1:24 PMEven those do. All that happens is when you take them off, they collapse. You shouldn't have any vertical bones, just horizontal ones, and then it works like a chinese lantern. -
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Re: hinged/foldable pannier pattern?
Tue, January 6, 2009 - 6:10 PMI'll do a search on JP Ryan, as I'm not familiar with it. The only pannier pattern I have has boning both horizontally & vertically.. kinda quanset hut style. I saw this.. bp2.blogger.com/_EHVPN5i19...ingdale.jpg which was listed as a farthingale.. ... and thought I might be able to do panniers that way..
The costuming on this blog is beautiful! behrlenyc.blogspot.com/2008_0...ve.html -
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Re: hinged/foldable pannier pattern?
Tue, January 6, 2009 - 6:22 PMThe J.P. Ryan patterns look great.. thanks for the reference!
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Re: hinged/foldable pannier pattern?
Tue, January 6, 2009 - 6:32 PMOh, no no no no. Panniers don't work that way. Here is an example of large panniers in the Metropolitan: www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/e...3.65.2.htm
Note how short they are, and how they most certainly don't have vertical bones. In fact, no skirt structure throughout the entirety of steel history has been made that way, except with very short vertical ones. Farthingales don't and didn't have vertical bones. And the first picture you posted was of a large supportasse for her ruff.
At any rate, panniers rely on the cut of the fabric and the tension of rings of steel to create that impressive silhouette. So you take the width of what you want the panniers to be, and the width of your body from ass to belly button, a rather comfortable measurement. Do a perimeter based on those, and cut a length of fabric that is the perimeter, plus seam allowance. Cut an oval (or square, depending) of the same perimeter plus seam allowance, and a hole in the middle the circumference of your natural waist (3" below belly button) and slit from there to short edge. Stitch long perimeter fabric around oval. Sew the perimeter shut but not the oval. bind the slit and put binding around hole in oval for a draw string. Stitch about 3 rows of bias tape around the perimeter bit of fabric. Use as casing for boning, which could be spring steel or wicker cane. Wicker cane being more period. Stitch ties on the inside on the long edges so that you can tie them together for better holding of a flat plane in the front and back.
This pattern doesn't allow for pockets. If you want pockets underneath, make slits instead part way down each long oval end, and bind them. When you make the waistband, let one side close and leave the other side open to tie. -
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Tue, January 6, 2009 - 6:36 PMOk, it looked like a weird supportasse, but I don't see it in any other photo, so I have no idea what it was supposed to be. -
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Re: hinged/foldable pannier pattern?
Tue, January 6, 2009 - 6:50 PMThanks, ladies.. silhouette and packability are more important that historical accuracy in this case.. I so appreciate learning from you.. awesome!
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